The Duct Tape Marketing Podcast
Insightful interviews with authors, experts, entrepreneurs, and thought leaders who share valuable marketing tips, growth strategies, and resources. Hosted by John Jantsch, one of America's top small business marketing experts, this show is dedicated to helping you craft effective marketing strategies that will grow your business. Whether you're a small business owner, marketing professional, or marketing agency owner, you'll gain valuable insights and actionable advice on topics such as marketing strategy, consulting, social media marketing, content marketing, SEO, email marketing, lead generation, business management, entrepreneurship and much more. With over 900 episodes since its inception in 2005, The Duct Tape Marketing podcast is your go-to resource for all things marketing or business growth. Join us each week as we dive into the latest marketing trends and strategies that will help you achieve your business goals. Don't miss out on this opportunity to learn from the best in the business. Tune in to The Duct Tape Marketing podcast and start listening today!

Hiring ready-made talent is harder than ever, especially for small businesses competing in an AI-driven job market. In this episode, workplace futurist Alexandra Levit explains how work-based learning programs can help small businesses build a sustainable talent pipeline while addressing the youth employment crisis. Learn how apprenticeships, internships, and mentorship-driven workforce development strategies can close the skills gap, strengthen community ties, and improve employee retention. If you are looking for practical ways to recruit, train, and retain skilled workers without relying solely on traditional college degrees, this conversation offers a clear, actionable roadmap.

Today we discussed:

00:00:00 Introduction

00:00:23 Building a Talent Pipeline with WBL

00:00:56 What Is Work-Based Learning?

00:02:19 Youth Employment Crisis and Skills Gap

00:04:38 Trade Stigma and Shifting Labor Demand

00:07:08 GPS Education Partners Model

00:13:16 Starting Small: Employer Playbook

00:17:22 Certifications, AI Skills, and Metrics

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Category:Podcast -- posted at: 10:55am MST

What if your biggest expense isn’t your mortgage, but your income tax? In this episode, John Jantsch sits down with Jack Ojo, founder of Ojo Wealth Strategies and author of Two Smart to Be an Umpire, to break down how small business owners can legally reduce taxes and build real wealth. They cover how to reduce taxes as a small business owner, when to choose S corp vs LLC for tax savings, defined benefit pension plans for high income earners, Roth conversion strategies, and why maxing out your 401k still matters. If you’re an entrepreneur looking for smarter tax planning strategies that protect against worst-case scenarios while accelerating long-term wealth, this episode delivers practical, actionable advice.

Today we discussed:

00:00 From Umpire to Wealth Advisor

03:07 Reinventing After a Career Setback

06:52 Biggest Tax Myths Business Owners Believe

10:30 What to Do After a Banner Revenue Year

12:57 Salary vs Distributions Explained

14:35 Multi-State Employees and Tax Strategy

16:36 Why 401k Plans Still Win

18:31 Paying Your Kids Through Your Business

21:07 How to Connect with Jack

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Category:Podcast -- posted at: 12:43pm MST

AI is moving fast but most organizations were never built for this kind of speed.  John sits down with Stephen Wunker to explain why simply adding AI tools is not enough. They explore how to redesign business processes, identify golden workflows, and build an AI infused organization with strong governance and data foundations. You will learn how distributed intelligence, experimentation, and leadership alignment can unlock real productivity gains and smarter decisions across your company.

Today we discussed:

00:00 The Octopus AI Model

04:20 AI Risks and Data Guardrails

08:16 Golden Workflows

13:22 The Three Hearts of AI

15:31 Super Intelligent Firms

17:04 AI Marketing Agility

19:02 Rethinking Work With AI

21:04 Where to Learn More and Connect

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Category:Podcast -- posted at: 8:30am MST

Businesses don’t win by selling more features or even better experiences anymore. In this episode, Joe Pine explains why the real value today comes from selling outcomes and guiding customers toward meaningful transformation. We unpack the transformation economy, how it differs from the experience economy, and why charging for outcomes changes pricing, guarantees, and business models. You will learn how both B2B and B2C companies can productize transformation, align messaging with real results, and help customers become who they want to be.

Today we discussed:

00:00 Why Transformation Matters Now

11:43 Productizing Transformation

14:00 Pricing and Outcome-Based Models

16:48 Messaging Around Who Customers Become

20:16 How to Start a Transformation Strategy

24:28 Connect With Joe

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Category:Podcast -- posted at: 8:56am MST

AI did not just disrupt consulting, it changed what it takes to survive. Steve Cunningham shares how AI nearly wiped out his business, forced a complete reinvention, and ultimately led him to become an AI native full stack consultant. The conversation explores why context, workflows, and AI ready deliverables now matter more than traditional expertise alone. If you are a consultant, agency owner, or service professional wondering how AI is reshaping your role, this episode makes the stakes clear and the path forward practical.

Today we discussed:

00:00 How AI Wiped Out Steve’s Business

03:54 What an AI-Native Consultant Really Is

08:11 Giving AI the Right Context

11:53 Choosing AI Platforms Without Lock-In

14:54 Deliverables for Humans and AI

17:37 Guardrails for Safe AI Work

20:22 Steve and SimpleConsultants

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Category:Podcast -- posted at: 6:15am MST

Most goals do not fail because of a lack of motivation. They fail because people misunderstand the odds. Kyle Austin Young explains why goal setting breaks down, how hidden risks quietly derail progress, and how his probability hacking framework helps leaders and entrepreneurs intentionally improve their chances of success. The conversation explores decision making under uncertainty, resilience, and why thinking about what could go wrong is often the smartest path forward. If you want a more realistic, strategic way to achieve big goals, this episode reframes how success actually works.

Today we discussed:

00:00 Why Goals Are About Odds, Not Motivation

03:22 Thinking Negative to Prevent Failure

04:06 Probability Hacking and the Success Diagram

07:39 How to Build a Success Diagram Step by Step

09:09 Why Averaging Odds Fails Your Goals

11:55 Failure, Repetition, and Multiple Attempts

15:38 Advantage, Persistence, and Playing the Odds

18:26 Edison, Experiments, and True Resilience

20:05 Why Reverse Engineering Success Is Risky

21:27 Where to Connect

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Category:Podcast -- posted at: 10:08am MST

Marketing feels chaotic because most businesses are chasing tactics without a system to support them. In this episode, John Jantsch and Sara Nay explain why a marketing operating system brings clarity, accountability, and predictable growth. They walk through how strategy comes first, how campaigns turn strategy into action, and why systems create long-term business value. If marketing feels scattered or hard to measure, this conversation shows how to turn chaos into a repeatable system that actually works.

Today we discussed:

00:00 Why Marketing Feels Chaotic in 2025

02:21 What a Marketing OS Is and Why It Matters

04:53 Strategy-First Marketing for Small Business

08:14 Turning Strategy Into Marketing Campaigns

09:25 SOPs and Workstream Engine for Marketing

12:54 How AI Fits Into Modern Marketing Systems

15:24 Scorecards, Metrics and Marketing Dashboards

17:57 Monthly Momentum Meetings for Marketing Teams

20:27 Quarterly Optimization for Better Results

22:33 Agency vs Fractional CMO Service Models

24:32 Book a Call

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Category:Podcast -- posted at: 6:57am MST

Curiosity is not a soft skill. It is one of the strongest predictors of leadership performance and team success. In this episode, John Jantsch talks with leadership strategist and researcher Debra Clary about why curious leaders build stronger, smarter teams and how asking better questions drives engagement, trust, and results. They explore how curiosity can be learned, measured, and practiced, especially in high pressure leadership environments. You will learn how bold questions can reshape culture, unlock performance, and help leaders move from giving answers to developing people.

Today we discussed:

00:00 Start

01:51 Improv, Stand-Up, and the Book Journey

03:18 Curiosity as a Superpower and Its Decline

04:40 Data Linking Curiosity to Performance

06:09 From Having Answers to Coaching Teams

09:28 Curiosity Myths and Key Traits

10:57 Measuring and Training Curiosity

12:00 Bold Questions and Team Engagement

13:18 Case Study: Defining the Real Problem

16:26 When Curiosity Is Missing at Work

18:55 Curiosity Habits Leaders Can Use

20:28 Where to Connect

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Category:Podcast -- posted at: 8:24am MST

Content is about to become unlimited, cheap, and automated and that changes everything about marketing strategy. John Jantsch sits down with Peter Benei of AI Ready CMO to explore how AI is reshaping marketing teams, why production is no longer the advantage it once was, and what skills marketers must develop to stay relevant. They discuss the evolving role of the CMO, the limits of AI tools, and why judgment, taste, and strategic thinking remain human responsibilities. This episode offers a clear, practical look at what AI really means for the future of marketing.

Today we discussed:

00:00 Introduction

01:33 AI vs. Past Tools

03:58 Content Hype Reality

07:17 Automation & Quality

10:38 Human Judgment Matters

12:41 Jobs & Skills Outlook

17:31 Future of the CMO Role

19:29 Tool Landscape Predictions

24:36 Take Action

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Category:Podcast -- posted at: 8:13am MST

You can’t self-care your way out of a toxic workplace, and leadership consultant Amy Leneker explains why. In this episode, we unpack how workplace stress, toxic positivity, and broken trust quietly undermine teams, culture, and performance. Amy shares a practical framework leaders can use to identify stress, rebuild trust, and create healthier work environments without superficial fixes. If you lead a team and want real change, this conversation challenges everything you think you know about stress and joy at work.

Today we discussed:

00:00 Start

01:10 Meet Amy Leneker

01:56 Recovering Workaholic

03:45 Three-Step Stress Method

05:54 Team Stress Framework

08:42 Joy Strategy and Evolving Culture

13:04 HR's Role

14:25 Work-Life Harmony Part 1

16:40 Generational Differences

18:45 Work-Life Harmony Part 2

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Category:Podcast -- posted at: 5:46am MST

John sits down with communication expert Carmine Gallo to break down how to capture attention without clickbait by using proven persuasion and storytelling principles. They explore the neuroscience of attention, why timeless story structure still works across platforms like TED Talks and TikTok, and how ethical hooks build trust instead of hype. The conversation also dives into using AI without losing authenticity, explaining why human meaning always outperforms optimized grammar. If you want to create content that stands out, earns trust, and keeps audiences listening, this episode delivers practical, science-backed insights.

Today we discussed:

00:00 Start

01:10 Meet Carmine Gallo

02:18 Audio Original Format

04:09 Contrast Power: JFK Quote vs AI Replacement Phrase

05:56 Evolution of Storytelling

08:31 Three-Act Structure

13:20 The Hook Explained

17:20 AI & Human Voice

20:43 Storytelling Insights

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Category:Podcast -- posted at: 3:27am MST

What should businesses focus on as marketing evolves in 2026? In this solo episode, John Jantsch breaks down 6 marketing trends that will shape 2026, from the growing importance of local SEO and customer retention to the rise of trust-based micro-influencers and authentic content. You’ll learn why “real” is replacing viral, how mischief can become a marketing strategy, and why being genuinely helpful is the future of search. This episode offers practical guidance for small businesses and marketers looking to stay relevant, visible, and trusted in a rapidly changing landscape.

Today we discussed:

00:00 Start

01:09 Intro

01:58 Local Advantage

04:45 Real is the New Viral

07:26 Mischief Marketing

08:43 Retention is the New Acquisition

10:30 Trust Brokers and Micro-Influencers

12:11 Be the Answer – Helpful Search Content

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Category:Podcast -- posted at: 7:05am MST

John is joined by Lauren Esposito to explore why AI delivers the most value when treated as a digital teammate rather than just another tool. They unpack how businesses can build a true hybrid workforce by integrating digital workers alongside humans, reshaping roles, accountability, and leadership in the age of AI. You’ll learn how managing AI like an employee unlocks better outcomes, trust, and long-term ROI, and why AI adoption can’t live solely in IT. This conversation offers practical insight into the future of work, digital labor strategy, and what it takes to orchestrate AI for real business impact.

Today we discussed:

00:00 Start

01:10 Meet Lauren Esposito

02:19 The Hybrid Workforce

06:36 Organizational Shifts

10:21 Redefining Roles with AI

14:26 Trust in Digital Workers

17:20 Breaking Down Silos

20:49 Future Workforce Leadership

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Category:Podcast -- posted at: 5:45am MST

*This is a rerun of a previously released episode

Geoff Woods is the #1 international bestselling author of The AI-Driven Leader: Harnessing AI to Make Faster Decisions and the founder of AI Leadership and the AI Driven Leadership Collective. As a former Chief Growth Officer of a global company, Geoff brings real-world expertise in using AI to transform how leaders think and make decisions. In this episode, he reveals how AI can serve as a powerful thought partner—enhancing strategic focus, overcoming operational overwhelm, and unlocking breakthrough solutions using his CRIT framework. Tune in to learn how the most effective leaders are leveraging AI to stay ahead in a rapidly evolving business landscape. Today we discussed:

00:00 Start

01:10 Introducing Geoff Woods

01:23 How AI Enhances Leaders Strategic Thinking

03:13 AI as a Thought Partner

04:50 How AI Can Help with Operation Tasks

06:20 Focusing on the 20%

07:56 The C.R.I.T. Framework

13:10 Addressing the AI Culture Shift

16:20 How is AI Changing Decision Making

17:39 What's AI's Role in Leadership

19:26 How to Start Integrating AI Into Your Leadership Practices

This episode is brought to you by Duct Tape Marketing.

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Category:Podcast -- posted at: 5:01am MST

In The Science of Mindset and Sustainable Success, mindset coach and author Diana Pagano breaks down how neuroscience and neuroplasticity shape our beliefs, habits, and long-term success. She explains why sustainable success isn’t about doing more, but about rewiring limiting beliefs, interrupting fear-driven patterns, and aligning your mindset with intentional action. This conversation explores how mindset shifts help entrepreneurs and leaders overcome self-doubt, burnout, and plateaus while creating lasting growth. If you’re looking to understand the science behind mindset change and build success without sacrificing fulfillment, this episode offers practical insight and clarity.

Today we discussed:

00:00 Introduction

00:59 Meet Diana Pagano

01:32 Defining 'More' in Mindset

02:31 Rewiring Your Mind

04:45 Privilege & Reality Check

08:14 Fear & Belief Systems

13:11 Success Mindset Coaching

16:29 Client Success Stories

21:03 Universal Strategies

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Category:Podcast -- posted at: 5:10am MST

Sara breaks down the 10 essential questions every small business should ask before hiring a marketing agency, consultant, or fractional CMO. From who owns your marketing assets to how results are measured, Sara shares hard-won lessons from 16+ years helping businesses avoid costly mistakes. Learn how to spot red flags, demand transparency, and build a partnership based on strategy—not secrecy. Perfect for anyone ready to own their marketing and stop getting trapped in bad contracts.

Today we discussed:

00:00:00 Introduction

00:02:50 Why Marketing Is Hard

00:04:26 10 Questions Overview

00:05:14 Question 1: Asset Ownership

00:07:20 Question 2: Measuring Success

00:09:11 Question 3: Strategy Alignment

00:11:09 Question 4: Contract Terms

00:12:11 Question 6: Reporting Standards

00:12:23 Question 5: Team Interaction

00:13:04 Question 7: AI Integration

00:15:12 Question 8: Keep Your Team Involved

00:17:48 Question 10: What You'll Learn

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Category:Podcast -- posted at: 5:48am MST

John breaks down the 7 stages of a complete marketing operating system and why most businesses struggle without one. He explains how the marketing pyramid, business strategy, brand development, and customer experience all work together to create a repeatable, scalable system. You’ll learn how to eliminate random tactics, integrate AI into your workflows, and build a structured approach that finally drives consistent results. If you’ve ever wondered how to build a marketing operating system for your business, this episode gives you the roadmap.

Today we discussed:

00:00 Introduction

01:09 The Marketing Operating System

02:00 Business Chaos and the Marketing Pyramid

04:30 Designing the Marketing Operating System

08:00 The Seven Stages

10:43 Implementation Phases and Next Steps

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Category:Podcast -- posted at: 4:06am MST

*This episode originally aired in August 2025

Michael Aaron Flicker, founder of XenoPsi Ventures and co-founder of the Consumer Behavior Lab with behavioral scientist Richard Shotton, joins John Jantsch to explore how psychology shapes the world’s most successful brands. Drawing from their book Hacking the Human Mind, Michael shares insights into the hidden science behind consumer decisions and brand loyalty. Listeners will learn how to apply behavioral science to create more effective campaigns, craft memorable messages, and drive real business growth.

Today we discussed:

00:00 Start
01:03 Meet Michael Aaron Flicker
01:46 Hacking the Human Mind
02:47 Do Brands Know Psychology?
04:05 Challenging Marketing Myths
05:57 Behavioral Science Lab Work
07:43 Apple's iPod Memory Trick
10:41 Why 17 is Magic
12:09 Surprising Brand Psychology
13:37 The Peak-End Rule
16:23 Ethics of Mind Hacking
18:19 Getting Started Guide

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Category:Podcast -- posted at: 4:27am MST

John talks with Ashley Herd—founder of Manager Method—about why top performers often struggle when promoted into management and what organizations can do differently. Using real-world examples, Ashley breaks down how clear expectations, practical feedback, and better one-on-one conversations can transform team performance. She also shares her “career quilt” approach and a simple framework managers can use to make better decisions. If you want to build confident, effective leaders without burning people out, this conversation delivers the tools and long-tail strategies you need.

Today we discussed:

00:00 Introduction
00:33 Meet Ashley Herd
01:07 Accidental Managers Problem
02:52 The Manager Method
04:38 Training Gap Reality
05:50 Setting Clear Expectations
09:05 Career Quilt Concept
10:43 One-on-One Best Practices
13:08 Pause, Consider, Act
15:40 Coaching vs. Managing
16:53 Simple Management Tips
18:28 HR Perception Myths
19:57 Resources & Templates

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Category:Podcast -- posted at: 3:30am MST

With over two decades of experience helping small businesses thrive, John dives solo into this episode to explore how AI is revolutionizing the buyer's journey. He breaks down the stages of his signature “Marketing Hourglass” framework and shares how businesses must adapt their strategies in an AI-driven world. Tune in to learn how to future-proof your marketing by aligning with evolving customer behavior, embracing self-service tools, and doubling down on authenticity and trust. Today we discussed:

00:00 Introducing Christine Perkett

00:09 The evolved buyer journey

02:29 Reintroducing the Marketing Hourglass as a flexible customer journey mode

03:43 How AI interrupts and reshapes journey stages like know, like, and trust

04:55 Recommendation engines and the rise of self-service experiences

06:12 The need to rethink SEO: focus on questions, not keywords

06:50 Combining digital efficiency with emotional, human-centered marketing

08:33 The journey is already changing—are you adapting?

 

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Category:Podcast -- posted at: 3:30am MST

In this episode of the Duct Tape Marketing Podcast, we explore how small businesses can use AI to convert more leads while reclaiming precious time. John Jantsch talks with Rainmaker CEO Joe Gagnon about AI-native sales workflows, 24/7 phone agents, and why automation doesn’t have to feel inauthentic. Together they break down how AI can improve inbound conversations, overcome objections, and deliver more predictable growth. Learn how AI tools that help small business owners save time can also create better customer experiences and streamline every step of the sales journey.

Today we discussed:

00:00 Introduction
00:33 Welcome Joe Gagnon
00:57 Reinventing Small Biz Sales
02:41 AI-Native Sales Platform
04:23 Pricing & Access
07:16 Support Challenges
08:34 Sales Meets Support
10:09 Personalization Power
13:26 Customer Use Cases
15:09 Ethics & Constitution
18:06 Getting Started
20:21 Future Outlook

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Category:Podcast -- posted at: 6:30am MST

In this episode of the Duct Tape Marketing Podcast, we uncover how to magnetize the right clients by escaping the “obscurity tax” and building true market eminence. Guest David Newman breaks down the power of contrarian thinking, bold positioning, and sharing real expertise—not watered-down content. Learn why polarizing your message attracts perfect-fit clients while repelling the wrong ones, and how generosity, insight, and future-focused thinking fuel unstoppable growth. If you're ready to stand out in a noisy marketplace, this conversation gives you the long-tail strategies you need.

Today we discussed:

00:00 Introduction
01:33 The Obscurity Tax
04:47 Stakeholder Influence
05:42 Visibility in AI Era
08:29 Attracting Right Clients
11:34 Core Strategies Revealed
15:37 AI as Thought Partner
17:11 Finding Your Niche

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Category:Podcast -- posted at: 6:56am MST

Choosing the right marketing agency can make or break your business — and in this episode, John Jantsch shares the 10 essential questions every business owner must ask before hiring a marketing partner. Using real-world examples and industry red flags, he breaks down how to protect your data, evaluate reporting, connect tactics to strategy, and spot agencies that overcharge while underdelivering. If you’ve ever worried about getting ripped off or want to make smarter marketing decisions, this episode gives you the clarity and confidence you need. Discover how to avoid costly mistakes and choose a partner that truly drives results.

Today we discussed:

00:00 Introduction
01:48 Who Owns Your Data?
03:16 Defining Success
04:08 Strategy Alignment
04:52 Exit Strategies
05:39 Daily Work Breakdown
06:20 Ask For A Sample Report
06:41 AI & Human Oversight
07:43 Collaboration Process
08:14 Strategy Before Execution
09:18 Knowledge Transfer

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Category:Podcast -- posted at: 5:30am MST

John Jantsch sits down with LinkedIn expert Lorenzo Johnson to break down the four pillars of social selling that drive real results. Lorenzo explains how to improve your LinkedIn SSI score, build trusted relationships, and create value-driven content that stands out in a sea of generic AI posts. You’ll learn why video, carousel posts, and authentic engagement outperform automation—and how to optimize your professional brand for 2026. If you’re looking for best practices for social selling on LinkedIn, this episode delivers a clear blueprint you can put into action today.

Today we discussed:

00:00 Introduction
00:33 Meet Lorenzo Johnson
01:10 LinkedIn in 2026
01:24 The New Landscape
03:47 AI's Impact on LinkedIn
04:53 Social Selling Index
08:11 Profile Optimization Tips
10:24 Long-Term Selling Strategy
12:46 Best Outreach Tools
16:24 Tool Compliance Rules
19:03 Measuring Your Success

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Category:Podcast -- posted at: 4:25am MST

Sara breaks down the 10 essential questions every small business should ask before hiring a marketing agency, consultant, or fractional CMO. From who owns your marketing assets to how results are measured, Sara shares hard-won lessons from 16+ years helping businesses avoid costly mistakes. Learn how to spot red flags, demand transparency, and build a partnership based on strategy—not secrecy. Perfect for anyone ready to own their marketing and stop getting trapped in bad contracts.

Today we discussed:

00:00:00 Introduction
00:02:50 Why Marketing Is Hard
00:04:26 10 Questions Overview
00:05:14 Question 1: Asset Ownership
00:07:20 Question 2: Measuring Success
00:09:11 Question 3: Strategy Alignment
00:11:09 Question 4: Contract Terms
00:12:11 Question 6: Reporting Standards
00:12:23 Question 5: Team Interaction
00:13:04 Question 7: AI Integration
00:15:12 Question 8: Keep Your Team Involved
00:17:48 Question 10: What You'll Learn

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Category:Podcast -- posted at: 4:32am MST

*This is a rerun of a previous DTM episode.

Keith Lauver is a serial entrepreneur, seasoned marketing strategist, and founder of Atomic Elevator, the company behind Ella—an AI-powered marketing platform transforming how brands approach strategy and execution. He has launched six companies and raised over $34 million through product-driven growth. In this episode, Keith shares how High Definition Marketing and AI tools like Ella are redefining marketing for small businesses and agencies alike. Discover how to align your marketing strategy with execution, break through brand stagnation, and drive real business growth with smarter, not louder, tactics.

Today we discussed:

00:00 Introduction

00:41 What is High Definition Marketing?

01:59 How Has Marketing Strategy Changed?

08:17 ELLA and DTM Partnership

12:52 ELLA Elevates Your Marketing Team

16:46 How are AI Tools Evolving?

 

More About Keith Lauver:

 

Check out Keith Lauver's Website: https://www.atomicelevator.com

Connect with Keith Lauver's on LinkedIn: https://⁠www.linkedin.com/in/keithdlauver/⁠

 

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Category:Podcast -- posted at: 3:30am MST

*This is a rerun of a previous DTM episode.

Manick Bhan is the founder and CTO of Search Atlas, a cutting-edge SEO and content marketing platform powering over 20,000 websites and 5,000 agencies. A serial entrepreneur and respected thought leader in the SEO industry, Manick previously founded RankPay and has spent over a decade pushing the boundaries of search technology. In this episode, he joins John Jantsch to break down the future of SEO, the disruptive impact of AI and LLMs like ChatGPT, and how marketers can evolve beyond outdated strategies. Listeners will gain actionable insights into building high-converting content, mastering SEO automation, and future-proofing their digital marketing efforts.

00:00 Opening
01:03 Introducing Manick Bhan
01:32 Why Was Search Atlas Created?
03:53 Is SEO Dead?
06:12 Why is Conversion Higher From AI Search Than Google?:07:32 RIsk vs Opportunity with AI Search
09:12 Optimizing Content for Competitive Search
42 How Should Marketers Think about AI Today?
14:28 Quality vs Quanity
17:42 Rented vs Owned Spaces
20:09 Lessons Learned from a Founder

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Category:Podcast -- posted at: 4:33am MST

John Jantsch talks with Ernie Ross — branding strategist, founder of Ross Rethink, and creator of the Intangence Methodology. They explore how trust, storytelling, and human connection are redefining brand value in an age of AI and skepticism. Discover why authentic storytelling drives emotional connection, how meaning creates market worth, and what the future holds for purpose-driven brands built on trust.

00:00 Introduction
00:33 Meet Ernie Ross
01:10 What Is Intangence?
04:27 Trust as Brand Currency
07:40 AI Can't Replace This
10:56 Storytelling That Connects
13:07 Ethics of Emotion
14:32 Where to Start
16:49 Questioning Reality
18:35 Intangibles Drive Value

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Category:Podcast -- posted at: 7:31am MST

Dr. Julia Garcia is a psychologist, speaker, and author of The Five Habits of Hope: Stories and Strategies to Help You Find Your Way. In this episode, she joins John Jantsch to explore how hope isn’t just a feeling—it’s a leadership strategy that drives resilience, innovation, and connection. Julia reveals how emotional habits like release, repurposing, and emotional risk-taking can transform workplace culture and empower teams to thrive. Discover how leading with hope can build stronger, more human organizations.

00:00 Start
00:33 Meet Julia Garcia
01:10 Hope as a Habit
02:32 Debunking Hope Myths
04:37 Owning Your Own Story
06:07 Reframing Your Identity
07:47 Fighting Loneliness Together
10:28 Practicing Hope Daily
11:54 Hope in Business Culture
15:06 The Release Exercise
18:17 Realistic vs Unrealistic Hope
20:09 Connect with Julia

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Category:Podcast -- posted at: 3:59am MST

Mark Kingsley is a renowned brand strategist, consultant, and author of Brands in the Age of AI. In this episode, he joins John Jantsch to explore how artificial intelligence is reshaping the foundation of branding—from trust and differentiation to the very nature of human connection. Kingsley challenges marketers to move beyond chasing algorithms and instead use AI as a tool to humanize brands, build authentic emotional connections, and create more meaningful experiences in a rapidly changing digital world.

00:00:00 Introduction
00:00:33 Meet Mark Kingsley
00:01:14 AI vs. Human Branding
00:04:45 Trust in the AI Era
00:08:48 Storytelling That Works
00:14:04 Brand OS Explained
00:16:46 AI's Hidden Limits
00:18:16 Small Business AI Strategy

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Category:Podcast -- posted at: 4:58am MST

John breaks down why your Google Business Profile is now the most powerful tool for local SEO. He explains how Google’s shift toward AI-driven search and zero-click results means your profile has become your new “mini website.” John shares actionable steps to boost visibility, build trust, and turn your Google presence into a steady stream of local leads. Perfect for small business owners ready to thrive in the AI era.

  • 00:00 Introduction
  • 00:32 Rethinking Publishing on Rented Land
  • 02:06 Google Business Profile is Prime Real Estate
  • 06:30 E-E-A-T, Structured Data, and Staying Active
  • 11:56 What to Post on Your GBP Every Week
  • 14:45 Optimizing for AI
  • 18:11 4 Week Audit and Action Plan

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Category:Podcast -- posted at: 3:30am MST

Eva Gutierrez is the founder of ThinkWithAI.com and a leading educator on practical AI adoption for business leaders. With a background in behavioral science and communication, she helps organizations integrate AI into decision-making, recruiting, and daily workflows. In this episode, Eva and John explore how to build your AI team task by task, reframing AI as a hired teammate rather than a tool. Learn how to create a hybrid intelligence system that enhances productivity and empowers human potential.

  • 00:00 Introduction
  • 00:33 Meet Eva Gutierrez
  • 01:21 Think Task-by-Task AI
  • 06:01 AI Changes Your Org Chart
  • 10:00 Hybrid Intelligence Explained
  • 18:49 Let AI Recruit AI
  • 22:16 Connect with Eva

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Category:Podcast -- posted at: 7:27am MST

Bestselling author and leadership expert Robert Glazer, founder of Acceleration Partners and creator of the popular Friday Forward newsletter, joins John Jantsch to discuss his latest book, The Compass Within: A Story About the Values That Guide Us. In this episode, Robert shares a practical framework for identifying and living your true core values—turning them from vague ideals into actionable principles. Listeners will learn how to align their life, leadership, and decisions around authentic, measurable values that drive real growth.

00:00 Introduction
00:53 Reintroducing Robert Glazer
01:53 Personal vs Company Values
03:08 Why Write a Parable?
05:18 Making Values Actionable
08:15 Where Values Come From
12:01 Values and Leadership
15:41 Company Alignment & Core Values
18:45 Values in Business: Case Studies
22:40 Where to Find the Book

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Category:Podcast -- posted at: 5:47am MST

Don Yaeger is a New York Times bestselling author, leadership expert, and sought-after speaker known for distilling the habits of world-class performers. In this episode, Don joins John Jantsch to discuss The Science of Momentum and reveal how leaders can intentionally create and sustain it. Drawing from insights across sports, business, and the military, Don shares a proven framework for transforming small moments into lasting success. Listeners will learn how to engineer momentum, build belief, and ignite winning team cultures.

00:00 Introduction
00:32 Meet Don Yaeger
01:10 Sports ClichĂŠs Welcome
01:27 Super Bowl Sparked This Book
02:56 Engineering Momentum
07:23 Momentum Killers
12:04 Measuring Momentum
16:16 Research Across Industries
17:57 Weekly Truth-Telling Habit

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Category:Podcast -- posted at: 4:35am MST

Todd Sattersten, publishing veteran and CEO of Bard Press, joins John Jantsch to discuss his latest project, 100 Books for Work and Life. Todd has helped launch bestsellers like The One Thing and The Gift of Struggle, and brings decades of insight into what makes a book truly transformative. In this episode, he shares how the right book at the right time can shape careers, improve leadership, and create lasting success in both business and life.

Today we discussed:

00:00 Introduction
00:53 Meet Todd Satterson
01:35 How Todd Pick Books
03:42 Most Impactful Books
08:15 Todd's Research Process
10:28 Hidden Book Gems
12:04 Timeless Business Classics
13:52 Old Books, New Relevance
15:29 Reading with Purpose
19:16 Starting Fresh & Relationships
20:29 Summaries vs. Full Books
21:39 Top 3 for Young Entrepreneurs

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Category:Podcast -- posted at: 4:01am MST

John breaks down why SEO is no longer just about rankings—it’s about visibility. In this solo episode, he shares the seven key steps of a complete visibility audit, from showing up in AI search and local map packs to building authority through media mentions and fresh reviews. You’ll learn how to strengthen trust, optimize content for AI, and ensure your calls to action convert visitors into customers.

00:00 Start
01:00 SEO in 2025
01:27 Rankings Are Dead
02:17 The Visibility Audit
02:47 Step 1: AI Overview Presence
03:30 Step 2: Local Pack Wins
04:13 Step 3: Review Strategy
05:04 Step 4: Media Mentions Matter
06:12 Step 5: Master EAT Principles
07:06 Step 6: AI-Ready Content
08:44 Step 7: CTAs That Convert

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Category:Podcast -- posted at: 4:35am MST

Anthony Blatner, founder of Speedwork Social and host of LinkedIn Ads Radio, joins John Jantsch to uncover why so many businesses struggle with LinkedIn advertising. With years of experience helping B2B companies—from SaaS startups to Fortune 500s—Anthony explains the pitfalls of default campaign settings, the power of Thought Leader ads, and how to properly target the right professionals. Listeners will learn how to cut wasted spend, boost ROI, and finally make LinkedIn ads work.

00:00 Start
00:33 Meet Anthony Blatner
01:09 Why LinkedIn Ads Work
02:20 Best Industries for LinkedIn
03:20 Campaign Structure Secrets
06:04 Thought Leader Ads
08:26 Targeting Mistakes to Avoid
11:29 Budgeting for LinkedIn ROI
14:32 Retargeting & Lead Capture
16:14 Creative Best Practices
18:04 LinkedIn Culture Shift
18:31 AI Impact on LinkedIn

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Category:Podcast -- posted at: 5:37am MST

Todd Sawicki, founder and CEO of Gumshoe AI, joins John Jantsch to explore how artificial intelligence is transforming the future of search and marketing. With decades of experience in digital media, startups, and customer acquisition, Todd shares insights into the rise of AI-driven discovery and why marketers must adapt beyond traditional SEO. Discover how AI search is reshaping buyer behavior, driving higher conversions, and rewarding high-quality content like never before.

00:00 Introduction
00:53 Meet Todd Sawicki
01:58 AI Search Revolution
03:47 How AI Changes Search
05:49 AI Boosts Conversions
07:22 SEO to Product Marketing
08:18 Training AI Like Salespeople
09:47 Quality Content Wins
13:01 Future of AI Conversions
15:50 Birth of Gumshoe AI
17:01 What AI Says About You
18:18 AI Customer Personas
19:38 AI Competitive Edge
20:41 High-Intent Search Focus
22:58 How Gumshoe Works
25:20 Competitor Analysis Tools
26:38 Gumshoe for Marketers

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Category:Podcast -- posted at: 6:34am MST

Globally recognized leadership and customer experience expert Neen James joins John Jantsch to explore the power of creating exceptional experiences in business. As a keynote speaker and author of Exceptional Experiences: Five Luxury Levers to Elevate Every Aspect of Your Business, Neen shares how attention, anticipation, personalization, generosity, and gratitude can transform ordinary interactions into extraordinary results. Listeners will learn practical strategies to stand out, build loyalty, and make every client feel valued.

00:00:00 Start
00:00:53 Meet Neen James
00:01:45 What Is Luxury?
00:03:42 Luxury as a Feeling
00:05:15 Experience Elevation Model
00:06:45 Luxury Lever: Attention
00:09:22 Luxury Lever: Anticipation
00:13:11 Experience Audits
00:14:58 Luxury as Ease
00:16:06 Engaging Five Senses
00:17:50 Human vs. Automation
00:19:56 Standing Out Strategy

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Category:Podcast -- posted at: 5:07am MST

In this solo episode, John unpacks why traditional SEO is no longer enough and how businesses must shift toward search visibility in the age of AI. He explores the impact of zero click searches, E-E-A-T, and AI overviews, and shares actionable strategies to stay visible across Google and beyond.

00:00 Opening
00:58 Evolution of Search Engine Optimization
03:01 The Current State of Search
03:41 Focus on Search Visibility Instead of Rank
06:13 How to Demonstrate EEAT
09:04 Audit Your Content Gaps
10:07 Help Pages
11:46 FAQ Pages and Trust Elements
13:03 Refreshing Your Content
13:41 Utilize Your Google Business Page
14:35 Find Out How AI Is Sourcing Information
15:42 Common Mistakes

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Category:Podcast -- posted at: 6:14am MST

Dr. Sabrina Starling, founder of Tap the Potential and host of the Profit by Design Podcast, is known for helping entrepreneurs create profitable, sustainable businesses that thrive without constant owner involvement. In this conversation, she shares powerful insights on succession planning, the “$10K Hour” framework, and why mindset is the real key to growth. She also opens up about her personal journey of resilience and how it reshaped her approach to legacy and leadership. Listeners will gain practical strategies to delegate effectively, build systems that last, and free themselves to focus on what truly matters.

Today we discussed:

00:00 Start
00:52 Meet Sabrina Starling
01:30 Mindset = Growth
02:43 Letting Go for Joy
05:31 Planning Your Legacy
09:02 Family & Team Legacy
10:49 Legal Succession Basics
13:09 Running Without You
13:40 Grief & New Perspective
15:22 Transition Planning
18:19 Take Time Away
19:09 The $10K Hour Activities

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Category:Podcast -- posted at: 5:32am MST

Amy Rosenberg, seasoned PR strategist, agency founder, and author of A Practical Guide to Public Relations for Businesses, Nonprofits and PR Leaders, joins John Jantsch to unpack the evolving role of PR. She explains why thought leadership is now the cornerstone of visibility, how PR fuels SEO and even AI search, and why businesses need to be more practical in their approach. Listeners will gain clear strategies for building credibility, boosting online authority, and making PR work smarter in today’s digital landscape.

Today we discussed:

00:00 Introduction
00:52 Meet Amy Rosenberg
01:22 PR Myths Busted
02:49 AI Changes in Modern PR
04:20 PR's Digital Evolution
05:53 PR Meets SEO
07:44 Thought Leadership Matters
09:42 Starting Your Thought Leadership
11:20 Podcasts for PR Power
13:15 Social Media PR Strategy
15:10 Proving PR ROI
17:24 Getting Started Tips

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Category:Podcast -- posted at: 4:20am MST

Former national TV news anchor and founder of Rylan Media, Lynn Smith, joins John Jantsch to share lessons from her new book Just Keep Going. Drawing from career pivots, setbacks, and reinvention, Lynn reveals how resilience can be cultivated in children and adults alike. From overcoming fear to embracing courage, she explains why building resilience early creates stronger leaders later in life. Tune in to discover how to keep moving forward—no matter your age or stage.

Today we discussed:

00:00 Start
00:51 Meet Lynn Smith
01:27 Why She Wrote This Book
02:51 The Core Message
04:24 Who This Book Helps
05:48 Writing for Kids is Hard
07:07 Pictures Tell Stories Too
08:59 Teaching Kids Resilience
11:59 Her Career Pivot Story
13:24 The Role of Self-Awareness in Resilience
14:51 Modeling Strength for Kids
17:18 Teaching Resilience Tools
19:07 What's Next?
19:52 Keep Going Moments

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Category:Podcast -- posted at: 4:24am MST

*This is a re-release of a previous DTM episode.

John dives deep into the evolving landscape of SEO in this solo episode. He breaks down what today’s marketers need to know about zero-click searches, AI content, Google Search Console, and how to build search strategies that actually drive conversions. Whether you're a local business owner or a digital agency, this episode delivers a fresh SEO playbook packed with actionable insights to boost visibility, authority, and high-intent traffic. Don't miss this essential update on what really works in SEO today.

 

Today we discussed:

 

[00:00] Opening

[00:09] Introduction

[01:52] Search Presence and Visibility

[04:10] Embracing AI for Content

[05:59] Local Search Isn't Going Anywhere

[08:29] Prioritize Intent Based SEO

[11:06] Link Building

[13:58] Long Tail Queries

 

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Category:Podcast -- posted at: 4:00am MST

With over two decades of experience helping small businesses thrive, John dives solo into this episode to explore how AI is revolutionizing the buyer's journey. He breaks down the stages of his signature “Marketing Hourglass” framework and shares how businesses must adapt their strategies in an AI-driven world. Tune in to learn how to future-proof your marketing by aligning with evolving customer behavior, embracing self-service tools, and doubling down on authenticity and trust. Today we discussed:

00:00 Introducing Christine Perkett
00:09 The evolved buyer journey
02:29 Reintroducing the Marketing Hourglass as a flexible customer journey mode
03:43 How AI interrupts and reshapes journey stages like know, like, and trust
04:55 Recommendation engines and the rise of self-service experiences
06:12 The need to rethink SEO: focus on questions, not keywords
06:50 Combining digital efficiency with emotional, human-centered marketing
08:33 The journey is already changing—are you adapting?

 

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Category:Podcast -- posted at: 3:49am MST

Michael Aaron Flicker, founder of XenoPsi Ventures and co-founder of the Consumer Behavior Lab with behavioral scientist Richard Shotton, joins John Jantsch to explore how psychology shapes the world’s most successful brands. Drawing from their book Hacking the Human Mind, Michael shares insights into the hidden science behind consumer decisions and brand loyalty. Listeners will learn how to apply behavioral science to create more effective campaigns, craft memorable messages, and drive real business growth.

Today we discussed:

00:00 Start
01:03 Meet Michael Aaron Flicker
01:46 Hacking the Human Mind
02:47 Do Brands Know Psychology?
04:05 Challenging Marketing Myths
05:57 Behavioral Science Lab Work
07:43 Apple's iPod Memory Trick
10:41 Why 17 is Magic
12:09 Surprising Brand Psychology
13:37 The Peak-End Rule
16:23 Ethics of Mind Hacking
18:19 Getting Started Guide

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Category:Podcast -- posted at: 3:25am MST

Brent Weaver, CEO of E2M Solutions, joins John Jantsch to explore how artificial intelligence is reshaping the agency landscape. As the leader of a top white-label provider of WordPress, SEO, content, and AI solutions, Brent shares insights on how agencies can adapt to evolving client expectations, leverage AI tools, and stay competitive in a rapidly shifting market. Listeners will gain valuable strategies for thriving in the post-AI era of marketing.

Today we discussed:

00:00 Start
01:03 Meet Brent Weaver
01:47 AI Changes Everything
03:06 Embracing AI for Agencies
04:25 AI Adoption Challenges
07:33 AI Hype vs. Reality
08:32 SEO in the AI Era
11:59 Local SEO Still Matters
12:51 Post-AI Competition
14:13 Humans vs. Machines
15:23 AI-Powered Customer Experience
17:20 Brent's AI Journey
18:41 From Doer to Strategist

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Category:Podcast -- posted at: 3:30am MST

Jim Murphy is a high-performance coach, author, and creator of the Inner Excellence Methodology. He’s coached Olympians, world-class athletes, and business leaders to achieve breakthrough results by mastering their inner game. In this episode, Jim shares how his book Inner Excellence went viral after NFL star AJ Brown was seen reading it mid-game, and he unpacks the mindset shifts that lead to fearless performance, deeper fulfillment, and extraordinary results. Listeners will gain powerful insights into letting go of outcomes, embracing vulnerability, and training the mind for both peak performance and a meaningful life.

Today we discussed:

00:00 Start
01:05 Introducing Jim Murphy
01:48 AJ Brown's Impact on the Book
03:39 Book's Viral Success & Printing Issues
05:03 Jim Murphy's Personal Journey
06:41 Core Principles: Identity & Letting Go
08:27 Redefining Fear & Success
10:47 Business Leadership Applications
12:10 Daily Goals & Mindset Training
13:27 Spiritual Elements in Coaching
14:26 Vulnerability & Humility Breakthroughs
15:59 Society vs Inner Excellence
17:16 From Doing to Being Mindset
18:13 Handling Increased Exposure

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Category:Podcast -- posted at: 3:30am MST

Michael Tchong, innovation expert and founder of UberTrends, joins John Jantsch to reveal how seismic shifts in consumer behavior and technology are reshaping marketing. Recognized by the Daily Telegraph as America’s most influential trend spotter, Michael has helped brands like Apple, American Express, and Mercedes-Benz anticipate the future. In this episode, he breaks down the difference between fads and lasting Uber Trends, explores the rise of AI and transparency, and shares how businesses can turn emerging shifts into real opportunities.

Today we discussed:

00:00 Start
01:03 Meet Michael Tchong
02:04 What Are Uber Trends?
03:08 Uber Trends in Action
03:56 Breaking Down Uber Trends
04:31 Time Compression Explained
05:27 My Trend-Watching Journey
07:27 Trends vs. Fads
09:22 Using Trends for Business
11:26 Digital Marketing & AI Boom
14:35 Customer Experience Wins
15:47 The Transparency Revolution
20:24 How to Spot Trends
22:27 Critical Data Analysis

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Category:Podcast -- posted at: 3:30am MST

Victoria Downing, president of Remodeler’s Advantage, has been leading top-performing peer groups for over three decades, helping business owners across North America achieve greater profits, stronger leadership, and better work-life balance. In this episode, she reveals how the structure, accountability, and shared wisdom of peer groups can cut your growth timeline in half. From managing group dynamics to fostering a culture of investment in teams, Victoria shares proven strategies any entrepreneur can apply to thrive.

Today we discussed:

00:00 Start
00:53 Introducing Victoria Downing
01:34 Remodelers Advantage Vision
02:58 Peer Groups as the Core Tool
04:06 Peer Group Structure & Impact
05:33 Adding Tactical Roles
07:23 Challenges for Remodelers
09:17 Peer Accountability & Transparency
11:54 Tech & Innovation
13:25 Group Dynamics & Placement
16:33 Success Stories
18:26 Other Peer Group Models
19:22 Industry Trends & Future

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Category:Podcast -- posted at: 3:30am MST

Sara Nay is the CEO of Duct Tape Marketing and author of Unchained: Breaking Free from Broken Marketing Models. With over 15 years of experience helping small businesses grow, Sara returns to discuss the powerful concept of owning your marketing strategy. In this episode, she unpacks the shift away from outdated agency models toward building lean, AI-enabled systems and internal capabilities. Learn how to take control, simplify your marketing, and build lasting assets that fuel growth.

Today we discussed:

00:00 Introduction
00:52 Introducing Sara Nay
03:30 Costs and Risks of Outsourcing Marketing
06:31 Simplifying Marketing Through Focus and Strategy
08:29 Importance of Strategy Over Tactics
10:39 Evolving Marketing Roles: From Doers to Orchestrators
14:37 Adapting to AI: Career Mindset and Skill Development
16:34 Marketing Execution as an Asset: Owning vs Renting
19:27 The Role and Evolution of the Fractional CMO

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Category:Podcast -- posted at: 3:30am MST

Rhea Allen is the President and CEO of Pepper Shock Media, host of The Marketing Expedition Podcast, and a branding expert who helps businesses build unforgettable brands from the inside out. In this episode, she dives deep into the connection between culture and branding — and why your internal team is the foundation of how the world sees your business. Discover practical strategies for aligning HR and marketing, fostering employee buy-in, and using storytelling to shape a culture that truly represents your brand.

Today we discussed:

00:00:00 Start
00:00:52 Introducing Rhea Allen
00:01:39 Culture vs. Brand
00:02:45 Hiring for Culture Fit
00:03:46 Culture & Brand Camp
00:05:27 Team Buy-In Through Values
00:06:29 Storytelling in Culture
00:07:47 Storytelling in Marketing
00:08:31 Rise of Authentic Stories
00:10:28 Authenticity vs. AI
00:13:19 Fun & Engagement in Culture
00:18:21 Culture ROI: Retention & Happiness
00:19:52 Final Thoughts
00:21:36 Closing & Contact Info

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Category:Podcast -- posted at: 3:30am MST

Laura Ries is a globally recognized branding strategist, bestselling author, and president of Ries & Ries—the firm she leads alongside her father, legendary positioning pioneer Al Ries. In this episode, she unveils the powerful concept behind her latest book, The Strategic Enemy, and explains why great brands don't just stand for something—they stand against something. Discover how identifying a strategic enemy can give your brand clarity, focus, and unstoppable energy.

Today we discussed:

00:00 Start
00:52 Introducing Laura Ries
03:04 Defining a Strategic Enemy vs Competitor
03:37 Examples of Strategic Enemies in Branding
05:02 Understanding the Enemy as a Problem or Alternative
06:11 The Importance of Finding and Focusing on Your Enemy
06:52 Southwest Airlines: A Case Study in Focus and Enemy Positioning
08:08 Narrowing Focus as the First Step in Positioning
09:01 Category Importance and Brand Examples
12:46 Framework for Building a Brand and Finding Your Enemy
15:52 Entrepreneurial Success Stories: Airbnb and Others
18:33 Innovative New Brands and Category Ownership
20:40 Risks and Realities of Creating a Strategic Enemy

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Category:Podcast -- posted at: 3:30am MST

Sara Nay is the CEO of Duct Tape Marketing and a pioneer in strategy-first marketing for small businesses. With over 15 years of experience in roles from intern to fractional CMO, she now leads the charge in redefining what it means to run a successful, modern agency. In this episode, Sara unpacks her new book Unchained, which introduces the groundbreaking “anti-agency” model—a practical, AI-enabled approach that empowers business owners to stop renting their marketing and start owning it. Listeners will walk away with actionable insights on building lean, AI-enhanced marketing teams and why leadership—not just execution—is the future of scalable growth.

Today we discussed:

00:00 Start
00:43 Introducing Sara Nay
01:37 Identifying Problems with the Traditional Agency Model
03:30 The Anti-Agency Model and AI's Impact on Marketing
05:22 Timeless Marketing Principles in the Age of AI
07:23 Challenges and Dangers of AI Adoption in Small Business Marketing
09:47 The Fractional CMO Plus Model for Small Businesses
14:45 Agency Mindset Shift to Stay Relevant in the AI Era
16:36 Practical Steps for Small Businesses to Take Ownership of Marketing
18:22 How Small Businesses Should Approach AI Integration
20:33 Closing and Resources

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Category:Podcast -- posted at: 3:30am MST

Stacey Hylen is an internationally recognized business coach, growth strategist, and former Vice President of Chet Holmes International. With over two decades of experience helping entrepreneurs and Fortune 500s uncover untapped revenue, she is the author of the upcoming book Hidden Profits: More Clients and Cash. In this episode, Stacey reveals powerful, actionable strategies to boost profits—without spending more on marketing—including reactivating past clients, raising prices with confidence, and fixing hidden “profit leaks.” Tune in to discover how to shift from scarcity to abundance and transform your business into a revenue-generating machine.

Today we discussed:

00:00 Start
00:52 Introduction to Stacey Hylen
01:28 Hidden Profits Concept and Initial Story
02:38 Raising Prices and Overcoming Fear
03:44 Narrowing Focus and Attracting Ideal Clients
05:32 Profit Leaks and Focus on Revenue-Generating Activities
06:39 Shifting Sales Mindset from Selling to Serving
07:54 Business Owners' Relationship with Profit
09:48 Low Hanging Fruit: Reactivating Past Clients
11:42 Come Back Strategy Success Stories and Lessons
12:47 Repackaging and Repositioning Offers
13:53 Hidden Profits Framework: Reactivation and Upselling
15:06 Team Involvement in Sales and Cross-Selling
16:37 From Commodity to Couture: Positioning for Value
18:24 Surprising Client Results and Simple Strategies
20:02 Closing and How to Connect with Stacy Hyland

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Category:Podcast -- posted at: 3:30am MST

Chris Ducker is a serial entrepreneur, bestselling author, and founder of Youpreneur, a leading personal brand business education company. He is the author of The Long-Haul Leader: How to Lead and Win in the Long Game of Business, a powerful guide to sustainable leadership and intentional growth. In this episode, Chris shares hard-earned insights on overcoming burnout, building meaningful work-life balance, and creating long-term impact as a leader. Listeners will walk away with a clear framework for leading with focus, resilience, and purpose in both business and life.

Today we discussed:

00:00 Start
01:03 Introduction to Chris Ducker
02:22 Discussing the Concept of Long-Term Business Leadership
04:59 Developing a Long-Term Mindset in Entrepreneurship
05:52 Advice for Younger Entrepreneurs on Focus and Leadership
07:58 Introducing the Book's Framework and Origins
11:22 Positioning the Book and Its Multifaceted Nature
12:44 Measuring Progress and the Importance of Hobbies
14:54 Why Creative Hobbies Boost Productivity
16:15 Analog Hobbies and Personal Stories
17:52 Personal Reinvention and Burnout Experience
21:08 The Value of Transparency and Leading Out Loud
24:24 Closing and Where to Find More Information

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Category:Podcast -- posted at: 3:35am MST

Talia Wolf is an internationally recognized conversion optimization expert, keynote speaker, and founder of GetUplift—one of the world’s leading CRO agencies. She pioneered the concept of emotional targeting, a transformative marketing approach that taps into what customers truly feel and need. In this episode, Talia breaks down her four-step emotional targeting framework and shares how brands can dramatically boost conversions by crafting messages that connect on a human level. If you're tired of copycat marketing and want to create powerful customer experiences that truly resonate, this episode is a must-listen.

00:00 Introduction
01:04 Introduction to Talia Wolf
01:43 Defining Emotional Targeting
02:24 Common Website Mistakes and Emotional Targeting Approach
04:29 Limitations of Traditional Marketing Personas
05:46 Research Methods for Emotional Targeting
06:32 Ethics of Emotional Targeting
07:47 The Emotional Hook in Decision Making
08:25 Case Study: Teamwork and Customer-Centric Messaging
10:44 Honesty and Addressing Customer Pain Points
12:18 Overview of the Four-Step Emotional Targeting Framework
12:22 Step 1 & 2: Research and Synthesizing Insights
13:19 Step 3: Emotional Targeting Audit
14:29 Step 4: Running Meaningful Tests
15:25 Using Customer Language and AI in Emotional Targeting
17:09 Challenges and Importance of A/B Testing
20:51 Becoming Emotional Detectives
22:15 Closing and Contact Information

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Bill Shander is a data communication expert, renowned information designer, and founder of Beehive Media. With over 25 years of experience working with top-tier organizations like the United Nations, World Bank, and Deloitte, Bill helps professionals transform complex data into clear, compelling narratives. In this episode, he unpacks his latest book, *Stakeholder Whispering: Uncover What People Need Before Doing What They Ask*, sharing powerful insights on how to lead with questions, not just actions. If you want to elevate your communication skills, build trust faster, and stop being just an “order taker,” this conversation is a must-listen.

00:00 Introduction
01:38 What is a Data Communications Expert?
02:36 What Inspired Stakeholder Whispering
05:02 Doing What's Asked Versus What's Needed
08:20 Listen with your Ears, Not Your Brain
09:25 Silence is Golden
11:35 Common Mistakes in Stakeholder Whispering
15:08 Receptive vs Unreceptive Stakeholders
16:16 Is This a Leadership Book?
17:42 Remote and Hybrid Work
19:33 Real World Success Stories

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Category:Podcast -- posted at: 3:57am MST

Manick Bhan is the founder and CTO of Search Atlas, a cutting-edge SEO and content marketing platform powering over 20,000 websites and 5,000 agencies. A serial entrepreneur and respected thought leader in the SEO industry, Manick previously founded RankPay and has spent over a decade pushing the boundaries of search technology. In this episode, he joins John Jantsch to break down the future of SEO, the disruptive impact of AI and LLMs like ChatGPT, and how marketers can evolve beyond outdated strategies. Listeners will gain actionable insights into building high-converting content, mastering SEO automation, and future-proofing their digital marketing efforts.

00:00 Opening
01:03 Introducing Manick Bhan
01:32 Why Was Search Atlas Created?
03:53 Is SEO Dead?
06:12 Why is Conversion Higher From AI Search Than Google?:07:32 RIsk vs Opportunity with AI Search
09:12 Optimizing Content for Competitive Search
42 How Should Marketers Think about AI Today?
14:28 Quality vs Quanity
17:42 Rented vs Owned Spaces
20:09 Lessons Learned from a Founder

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Alex Goldfayn is a three-time Wall Street Journal bestselling author and one of the world’s most sought-after sales speakers. He’s the CEO of The Revenue Growth Consultancy, helping B2B companies generate millions in organic sales growth every year. In this episode, Alex reveals how to Outgrow your competition by transforming reactive teams into proactive market leaders. Tune in to discover simple, powerful actions to win more business, build lasting customer trust, and outsell even in tough times.


Today we discussed:

00:00 Introducing Alex Goldfayn

00:50 Transforming From Reactive to Proactive

02:56 Being Proactive Is a Necessity

04:46 Avoiding Rejection

06:28 Showing Up When Nothing is Wrong

07:45 The COPE Methodoligy

09:03 People Just Want to Be Helped

11:16 Swinging the Bat

15:54 Reminding the Customer

16:35 How Can Non-Sales Employees Be Proactive

18:20 How To Integrate a Proactive Mindset


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We are diving into the future of marketing in 2025 with Sara Nay, CEO of Duct Tape Marketing. Together, we discuss how AI is reshaping the marketing landscape and why blending cutting-edge technology with timeless human elements, like emotional intelligence and storytelling, is key to staying ahead. John shares actionable insights on hyper-personalization, defining your brand voice, and building trust in a world of automation. Learn how to adapt, thrive, and create authentic connections in an AI-driven world!

Today we discussed:

  • [00:00] Opening
  • [01:15] AI vs Previous Tech Excitement
  • [03:25] Approaching AI Strategically
  • [05:02] Adopting the Right Mindset Around AI
  • [10:47] The Human Element Stands Out
  • [13:04] Importance of Storytelling for Your Brand
  • [13:49] AI's Impact on Marketing
  • [16:08] The Future of Personalization
  • [18:55] Marketing Focus for 2025


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Dan Sanchez is an AI marketing strategist, consultant, and creator of the AI-Driven Marketer podcast. He’s a leading voice in the intersection of artificial intelligence and marketing strategy, helping businesses harness AI for content creation, automation, and growth. In this episode, Dan shares how marketers can think strategically about AI tools like ChatGPT—using them not just to automate tasks, but to enhance problem-solving, productivity, and creative strategy. Tune in to learn how to cut through the noise, avoid overwhelm, and make AI your most valuable co-pilot in the ever-evolving world of marketing.



Today we discussed:



00:00 Opening

00:09 Introducing Dan Sanchez

01:57 Approaching AI Strategically

04:04 Creating New Things with AI

06:36 Evolution of AI Prompting

08:50 Humans Changing Role in Marketing

11:38 Developing Skills vs Delegating Tasks

13:51 AI Agents Affect on Marketing

17:50 Advice on Using Deep Research



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Connect with Dan Sanchez on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/digitalmarketingdan/



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Andy Crestodina is the co-founder and Chief Marketing Officer of Orbit Media Studios and a leading authority on digital marketing, content strategy, and SEO. With two decades of hands-on experience and author of Content Chemistry, Andy joins John Jantsch to explore how AI is transforming content creation, analytics, and marketing strategy. They dive deep into using AI for genuine performance gains, not just efficiency, and share practical insights to help marketers stay ahead. Tune in to discover how to leverage AI without sacrificing quality — and why building real human connections still matters most.


Today we discussed:

00:00 Opening

00:09 Introducing Andy Crestonida

01:03 What is AI's Impact on Marketers in 2025

03:26 Making More Time for Relationships

04:59 The State of AI in UX

08:29 AI's Impact on Content Creation

10:09 Is Keyword Ranking Important in 2025?

11:14 There's More to Content Than Search

14:00 Important Metrics for Insightful Data

15:54 How AI Can Help with Analyzing Metrics

17:36 Tuning out Noise

18:46 How AI Can Help with Leads



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Blair Enns is a globally recognized thought leader in creative agency sales and the founder of Win Without Pitching, a revolutionary approach that empowers agencies to lead client engagements without giving away free work. He is the author of bestselling books including Pricing Creativity and his latest, The Four Conversations. In this episode, Blair breaks down his powerful new framework for selling expertise—moving from pitching and price haggling to confidently leading sales conversations. Listeners will learn how to increase closing ratios, price based on value, and shift from being seen as a vendor to a trusted advisor.



Today we discussed:

00:00 Opening

00:53 The Cost of Letting the Client Run the Show

04:36 What are the Four Conversations?

06:58 Show Your Expertise without Giving it Away

08:34 Avoid Evaluating the Client

10:08 Power Dynamics of the Sale

12:56 The Value Conversation

16:18 Working Around Client Budget

18:20 Price the Client, Not the Service

19:53 Moving From Vendor to Trusted Advisor


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Jon Mest is the founder of JustReachOut.io, a cutting-edge PR software platform, and ChatRank.ai, a breakthrough tool for AI-driven SEO. With over a decade of experience helping entrepreneurs and businesses land powerful media coverage, Jon shares his insights on how AI is transforming PR and search strategies. In this episode, he reveals how to build authentic media pitches, win attention in AI-powered search overviews, and why hyper-specific storytelling is the new secret to visibility. Tune in to learn how to future-proof your SEO and PR efforts in the evolving world of digital marketing.


Today we discussed:

00:00 Opening

00:45 How Has AI Changed the Way You Should Approach PR

02:31 Why PR is Rebounding

04:56 Relationship Between PR and the New SEO

06:55 How to Impact AIO

11:11 What Mistakes Do People Make when Pitching Media

14:32 How Important are Compelling Hooks

16:04 The Importance of Social Proof

17:40 Amplifying Your Current Press


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As a small business owner, you're constantly wearing different hats, from CEO to salesperson to project manager – but what's the secret to juggling it all without burning out? In this insightful episode, John explores the seven critical roles every entrepreneur needs to master, offering actionable advice for delegating, automating, and optimizing your business operations. His practical strategies will help marketing consultants, agency owners, and small business leaders shift from being trapped in day-to-day tasks to focusing on meaningful growth, ultimately creating a business that serves you rather than consuming you.

Today we discussed:

  • [00:00] Opening
  • [00:26] Juggling Multiple Roles
  • [04:38] The CEO Role
  • [05:37] The Sales Person Role
  • [07:09] The Strategist Role
  • [08:46] The Project Manager Role
  • [09:49] The Marketing Role
  • [12:59] The Client Manager Role
  • [13:56] The 4-Prong Approach


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In this solo episode, John unpacks why traditional SEO is no longer enough and how businesses must shift toward search visibility in the age of AI. He explores the impact of zero click searches, E-E-A-T, and AI overviews, and shares actionable strategies to stay visible across Google and beyond.

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David Hunter is the CEO of Local Falcon, an AI-powered local SEO platform, and founder of Epic Web Studios, a leading digital marketing agency with over 15 years of industry experience. In this episode, he joins John Jantsch to explore how AI overviews and conversational search are revolutionizing local SEO and reshaping Google’s search behavior. From proximity ranking shifts to the power of structured content and authoritative sources, David shares cutting-edge insights that every local business and marketer needs to hear. Tune in to learn how to future-proof your local search strategy in the age of AI.


Today we discussed:

00:09 Introducing David Hunter

00:42 How has AIO Affected Local SEO?

04:10 How is Proximity Affecting Local SEO?

08:02 Ranking Factors in Geographical Search

12:05 Structuring Content for AIO Search

15:10 Giving Your Website the Best Chance of Success

16:58 Unique Challenges for Multiple Location Businesses


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With over two decades of experience helping small businesses thrive, John dives solo into this episode to explore how AI is revolutionizing the buyer's journey. He breaks down the stages of his signature “Marketing Hourglass” framework and shares how businesses must adapt their strategies in an AI-driven world. Tune in to learn how to future-proof your marketing by aligning with evolving customer behavior, embracing self-service tools, and doubling down on authenticity and trust. Today we discussed:

00:00 Introducing Christine Perkett

00:09 The evolved buyer journey

02:29 Reintroducing the Marketing Hourglass as a flexible customer journey mode

03:43 How AI interrupts and reshapes journey stages like know, like, and trust

04:55 Recommendation engines and the rise of self-service experiences

06:12 The need to rethink SEO: focus on questions, not keywords

06:50 Combining digital efficiency with emotional, human-centered marketing

08:33 The journey is already changing—are you adapting?


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Christine Perkett is a seasoned entrepreneur, communications strategist, and co-founder of The Nova Method—a pioneering PR and marketing firm focused on audience-first strategy and brand trust in the age of AI. She is also the founder of Perkett PR and a faculty member at Northeastern University, where she teaches graduate-level social media and branding. In this episode, Christine shares how brands can stay authentic and human while leveraging technology, and introduces the Nova Method’s signature framework: Assimilate, Align, Activate. Listeners will gain insight into building trust, avoiding PR missteps, and navigating the fast-changing landscape of digital communication with confidence.



Today we discussed:

00:00 Introducing Christine Perkett

00:49 How the Nova Method was Created

02:12 How is AI Changing PR?

03:24 How AI and PR Helps you Build Trust

06:51 The Three-A's Framework

10:38 Protecting your Brand From Bad Exposure

14:57 How Does PR Intersect with Modern Search

16:52 Understanding a Clients Brand

20:38 Gauging When to Use AI



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Derek Coburn is a seasoned financial advisor, entrepreneur, and bestselling author of Networking Is Not Working. He is the co-founder of Cadre, an exclusive community for CEOs and entrepreneurs, and a respected voice on redefining success and fulfillment. In this episode, Derek dives into the ideas behind his new book Let’s Retire Retirement, challenging the outdated notion of traditional retirement and offering a fresh, liberating approach to living well now and later. Listeners will gain valuable insights on how to align financial planning with purpose, connection, and long-term joy—without waiting for “someday.”


Today we discussed:

00:00 Introducing Derek Coburn

00:45 The true history of retirement: Bismarck, FDR, and outdated milestones

03:24 Why 25–30% of retirees are going back to work

04:50 The concept of redefining retirement for personal fulfillment

07:37 Entrepreneurs and the myth of I’ll do it after I exit

08:49 Real-world case study: Jay Baer's pivot from agency to tequila influencer

10:13 Financial math: how working longer cuts required savings dramatically

12:07 The 401(k) rethink: taxes, Roth conversions, and planning smarter

13:38 Parenting, presence, and valuing your $50,000 moments

14:58 The mindset shift needed to fully embrace this new paradigm


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Pre-order Let's Retire Retirement and access exclusive bonuses: https://DerekCoburn.com


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Geoff Woods is the #1 international bestselling author of The AI-Driven Leader: Harnessing AI to Make Faster Decisions and the founder of AI Leadership and the AI Driven Leadership Collective. As a former Chief Growth Officer of a global company, Geoff brings real-world expertise in using AI to transform how leaders think and make decisions. In this episode, he reveals how AI can serve as a powerful thought partner—enhancing strategic focus, overcoming operational overwhelm, and unlocking breakthrough solutions using his CRIT framework. Tune in to learn how the most effective leaders are leveraging AI to stay ahead in a rapidly evolving business landscape. Today we discussed:

00:00 Opening

00:48 Introducing Geoff Woods

01:19 How AI Enhances Leaders Strategic Thinking

03:17 AI as a Thought Partner

04:46 How AI Can Help with Operation Tasks

06:16 Focusing on the 20%

07:52 The C.R.I.T. Framework

13:11 Addressing the AI Culture Shift

16:22 How is AI Changing Decision Making

17:45 What's AI's Role in Leadership

19:28 How to Start Integrating AI Into Your Leadership Practices


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Mike and Kass Lazerow are seasoned entrepreneurs and investors, best known for co-founding Golf.com and Buddy Media—acquired by Salesforce for $745 million. They've backed nearly 100 early-stage startups, contributing to over $10 billion in realized gains. In this episode, they dive into the raw, often messy reality of entrepreneurship, sharing hard-earned lessons from their journey and their latest book. Listeners will gain powerful insights on thriving in uncertainty, embracing the grind, and building successful businesses and lives through focus, transparency, and relentless drive. Today we discussed:

00:00 Introducing Mike and Kass Lazerow

00:50 The Title of the Book

01:44 How to Make Working with Your Spouse... Work

03:39 The Imbalanced Life

05:58 Everyone is Born an Entrepreneur

07:54 Favorite Cheat Codes

09:47 Embracing Uncertainty

12:06 Lessons in Failure

15:05 When to Pivot

18:05 Leaving a Legacy


More About Mike & Kass Lazerow:

Check out Mike & Kass Lazerow's Website: https://kassandmike.com/

Shoveling $h!t by Mike & Kass Lazerow on Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/Shoveling-Story-About-Entrepreneurs-Success/dp/B0DY21NS7W


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Paul Chaney is a veteran digital marketer, B2B content strategist, and publisher of the AI Marketing Ethics Digest on Substack. In this episode, Paul joins host John Jantsch to explore the crucial yet overlooked intersection of AI and marketing ethics. From the risks of "shadow AI" and techno-stress to building responsible governance frameworks and his Generative AI Business Adoption Hierarchy, Paul offers a grounded, strategic perspective on how businesses can navigate AI adoption with integrity. Tune in to learn why ethical guardrails aren't just about compliance—they're essential for protecting your brand, your team, and your customers.


Today we discussed:


00:09 Introducing Paul Chaney

00:42 Why Paul launched the AI Marketing Ethics Digest

02:58 Transparency, bias, and brand reputation in AI output

05:00 Strategy before technology: avoiding “bad work faster

06:55 What “shadow AI” is and how it can harm organizations

07:55 The need for usage policies and monitoring internal AI use

10:32 The Generative AI Business Adoption Hierarchy explained

13:20 Embedding AI into business culture with governance and clarity

15:27 What is AI techno-stress and how is it impacting workforces?

18:02 Lack of training is a hidden ethical risk for employee well-being

20:08 Why many business owners may give up on AI—and what that means for consultants


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Sara Nay, CEO of Duct Tape Marketing and longtime collaborator with John Jantsch, joins the show to unveil a bold new approach to delivering marketing services—the Anti-Agency Model. With over 15 years of experience leading strategy and innovation, Sara breaks down why the traditional agency model is failing both marketers and small businesses, and how AI is reshaping everything from execution to internal team leadership. This episode explores the shift from outsourced marketing to building in-house systems supported by AI, empowering businesses to take ownership of their growth. Tune in to discover how agencies and fractional CMOs can embrace this future-ready model and drive deeper value for clients.

Today we discussed:


00:00 Introduction

01:18 How the current agency model fails businesses and agencies alike

02:48 The misalignment between agency incentives and business goals

03:26 Using AI to elevate—not eliminate—marketers

07:06 The evolution toward system installers and strategic leaders

09:47 Business owner reactions to the anti-agency concept

12:13 Adding consistency as the fourth “C” of effective marketing

13:53 Workshop overview: structure, tools, and outcomes

15:57 Licensing a system, not just learning a method

17:19 Who this workshop is designed to help

18:23 Who your ideal client is for this new model


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Anne-Laure Le Cunff is a neuroscientist, entrepreneur, and founder of the wildly popular Ness Labs—a platform focused on mindful productivity and creative experimentation. A former marketing executive at Google, Anne-Laure brings both scientific rigor and real-world insight to the conversation. In this episode, she shares ideas from her new book Tiny Experiments, revealing how to break free from rigid goal-setting and design small, curiosity-driven experiments that foster personal and professional growth. Listeners will walk away with a powerful mindset shift and practical tools for embracing uncertainty and unlocking creativity through experimentation.


Today we discussed:


00:09 Introduction to Anne-Laure and the concept behind Tiny Experiments

02:11 How a health scare triggered Anne-Laure's career shift

03:41 Why we're obsessed with goals—and how it can be harmful

05:42 The myth of public accountability: Why telling people your goals might not help

06:47 What exactly is a tiny experiment?

07:36 Reframing weight loss or health goals as experiments

09:33 Applying the PACT framework to business and marketing

11:47 How fear of failure—and fear of success—affect experimentation

13:23 Practicing curiosity-driven intelligence in life and business

16:54 Using AI as a tool for reflection and experiment design

17:57 Personal stories: How tiny experiments shaped Anne-Laure’s life and work

19:53 Where to connect with Anne-Laure and learn more


More About Anne-Laure Le Cunff:

Check out Anne-Laure Le Cunff's Website: https://nesslabs.com

Tiny Experiments by Anne-Laure Le Cunff on Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/s?k=tiny+experiments+anne-laure+le+cunff


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Jonathan Grabowski is the co-founder and Chief Marketing Officer of Penji, an innovative on-demand graphic design platform known for delivering unlimited custom design services with a human-first approach. Under his leadership, Penji has grown into a 500-person global team by blending systematized creative services with deep empathy and customer care. In this episode, Jonathan shares how businesses can scale design, improve customer experience, and outshine competitors by focusing on connection over convenience. Discover why human interaction still trumps AI in branding and how empathy is a true growth tactic for modern entrepreneurs.


Today we discussed:


00:00 Opening

00:09 Introducing Johnathan Grzybowski

01:53 The Origin of Penji

05:46 How to Establish a Brand Identity

08:25 The Human Element of Penji

09:47 Penji Success Stories

14:13 How AI Affects the Design Workflow


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Suzy Welch is a New York Times bestselling author, and professor at NYU Stern School of Business. She’s also the creator of Becoming You, a proven method for aligning your values, aptitudes, and interests to design a purpose-driven career. In this episode, Suzy shares how her transformative framework helps individuals cut through the noise and find true clarity about who they are and what they’re meant to do.


Today we discussed:


00:00 Opening

00:09 Introducing Suzy Welsh

01:24 What Inspired Becoming You

03:02 Finding Your Purpose

07:07 Moving Past the Fear of Finding Your Purpose

10:25 Discovering Your Aptitudes

13:26 The Balance Between Joy and Financial Security

14:47 Finding You at Any Age

16:56 Impact of AI on the Workplace


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Check out Suzy Welch's Website: https://www.suzywelch.com

Connect with Suzy Welch on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/suzywelch/



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Keith Lauver is a serial entrepreneur, seasoned marketing strategist, and founder of Atomic Elevator, the company behind Ella—an AI-powered marketing platform transforming how brands approach strategy and execution. He has launched six companies and raised over $34 million through product-driven growth. In this episode, Keith shares how High Definition Marketing and AI tools like Ella are redefining marketing for small businesses and agencies alike. Discover how to align your marketing strategy with execution, break through brand stagnation, and drive real business growth with smarter, not louder, tactics.

Today we discussed:

00:00 Introduction

00:41 What is High Definition Marketing?

01:59 How Has Marketing Strategy Changed?

08:17 ELLA and DTM Partnership

12:52 ELLA Elevates Your Marketing Team

16:46 How are AI Tools Evolving?


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Check out Keith Lauver's Website: https://www.atomicelevator.com

Connect with Keith Lauver's on LinkedIn: https://⁠www.linkedin.com/in/keithdlauver/⁠


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John breaks down five powerful ways to use Google Search Console to transform your SEO strategy. From uncovering high-intent search queries to improving click-through rates and measuring true search visibility, this episode offers practical insights that go far beyond rankings. If you're ready to turn SEO data into real business results, this episode is a must-listen. Today we discussed:


00:00 Opening

00:09 SEO is Not Dead

02:53 Intent and Content Opportunities

05:12 Local and Branded Visibility Signals

05:53 Measuring Trust and Visibility

07:05 Fixing Technical Problems

08:06 Guiding AI Content


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Mark Schaefer is a globally recognized marketing futurist, bestselling author of Marketing Rebellion and The Content Code, and host of the top-ranked Marketing Companion podcast. He’s also a keynote speaker and trusted strategy consultant to some of the world’s leading brands.

In this episode, Mark joins the Duct Tape Marketing Podcast to discuss his latest book, Audacious: How Humans Win in an AI Marketing World. He shares powerful insights on why human-centered marketing is the antidote to AI saturation and how bold, creative branding, emotional connection, and shared experiences are reshaping modern marketing strategy. If you're looking to stand out in the age of automation, this episode is your roadmap.


Today we discussed:


00:00 Opening

00:09 Introducing Mark Schaefer

00:59 Where Do Humans Fit in an AI Dominated World?

04:09 A World Without Shared Experiences

07:00 How to Out-Human AI

09:44 Embracing Every Day Awe

13:08 How AI is Changing Consumer Behavior

17:25 Story of the Book Cover

19:17 Start with Wrong


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Dan Sanchez is an AI marketing strategist, consultant, and creator of the AI-Driven Marketer podcast. He’s a leading voice in the intersection of artificial intelligence and marketing strategy, helping businesses harness AI for content creation, automation, and growth. In this episode, Dan shares how marketers can think strategically about AI tools like ChatGPT—using them not just to automate tasks, but to enhance problem-solving, productivity, and creative strategy. Tune in to learn how to cut through the noise, avoid overwhelm, and make AI your most valuable co-pilot in the ever-evolving world of marketing.


Today we discussed:


00:00 Opening

00:09 Introducing Dan Sanchez

01:57 Approaching AI Strategically

04:04 Creating New Things with AI

06:36 Evolution of AI Prompting

08:50 Humans Changing Role in Marketing

11:38 Developing Skills vs Delegating Tasks

13:51 AI Agents Affect on Marketing

17:50 Advice on Using Deep Research


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Check out Dan Sanchez's Website: https://danchez.com

Connect with Dan Sanchez on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/digitalmarketingdan/


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Marcus Sheridan is a globally recognized keynote speaker, author of They Ask, You Answer, and founder of one of the world’s most visited swimming pool websites. With over 750 keynotes delivered—including TEDx—and features in The New York Times and Forbes, Marcus is a trusted voice in content marketing and brand transparency. In this episode, he shares how businesses can dominate their industries by building customer trust by embracing self-service tools, and saying what competitors won’t. Tune in to learn how to rethink your marketing strategy, leverage video content, and future-proof your brand in an AI-driven world.


Today we discussed:


[00:00] Opening

[00:09] Introducing Marcus Sheridan

[02:10] Building a Known and Trusted Brand

[06:18] Thinking Like a Media Company

[11:20] Using AI to Help With Promotion

[15:25] Mitigating Risk for Customers

[20:05] Controlling the Conversation


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Connect with Marcus Sheridan on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/marcussheridan/


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John dives deep into the evolving landscape of SEO in this solo episode. He breaks down what today’s marketers need to know about zero-click searches, AI content, Google Search Console, and how to build search strategies that actually drive conversions. Whether you're a local business owner or a digital agency, this episode delivers a fresh SEO playbook packed with actionable insights to boost visibility, authority, and high-intent traffic. Don't miss this essential update on what really works in SEO today.


Today we discussed:


[00:00] Opening

[00:09] Introduction

[01:52] Search Presence and Visibility

[04:10] Embracing AI for Content

[05:59] Local Search Isn't Going Anywhere

[08:29] Prioritize Intent Based SEO

[11:06] Link Building

[13:58] Long Tail Queries


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Shane Murphy-Reuter is the President of GTM at Calendly, a leading scheduling software platform trusted by millions. With a proven track record in scaling SaaS companies like Intercom and Webflow, Shane brings deep expertise in product-led growth, sales strategy, and category creation. In this episode, he shares how Calendly has evolved beyond scheduling to serve SMBs and solopreneurs through AI-driven relationship management tools. Tune in to learn how focusing on your core users can drive sustainable growth, outpace competitors, and spark innovation in a crowded market.


Today we discussed:


[00:00] Opening

[00:09] Introducing Shane Murphy-Reuter

[00:51] Extending Your Core Business

[04:47] How Hyperfocus Protects Your Business

[06:51] Find your Unique Advantage

[10:28] Messaging for Clients with Different Needs

[15:05] Shifting Mindset to Deal with Growth

[17:00] Incentivizing Sales Teams

[19:00] How Will AI Effect Scheduling Software


More About Shane Murphy-Reuter:


Check out Shane Murphy-Reuter's Website: https://calendly.com/

Connect with Shane Murphy-Reuter on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/shanemurfy/


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Dr. Margie Warrell is a bestselling author, leadership coach, and global authority on courage, risk-taking, and transformational leadership. She’s worked with Fortune 500 companies, coached C-suite executives, and spoken at the US Congress—empowering thousands to lead with boldness and integrity.


In this episode, we dive into her latest book, The Courage Gap: Five Steps to Braver Action, exploring how fear, self-doubt, and imposter syndrome silently sabotage decision-making and business growth. Margie shares powerful strategies for building your “courage muscle,” raising your rates with confidence, and taking bold action even amid uncertainty.


Today we discussed:


[00:00] Opening

[00:09] Introduction to Margie Warrell

[01:01] What is the Courage Gap?

[02:57] The Difference Between Fear-based and Strategic Pausing

[05:06] What Role Does Imposter Syndrome Play?

[09:48] Finding the Courage to Charge Your Worth

[12:15] Habits to Build Courage

[14:35] Dealing with Fear of Rejection

[17:10] Being Courageous Through the Unknown


More About Margie Warrel:


Check out Margie Warrels Website: https://margiewarrell.com/

Connect with Margie Warrel on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/margiewarrell/


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Prasanna Dhungel is the co-founder and managing partner at Grow By Data, with nearly two decades of experience leading innovation in marketing, tech, healthcare, and SaaS. A graduate of Cornell, Princeton, and Kellogg School of Management, Prasanna brings deep expertise in digital strategy and search engine evolution.


In this episode, he breaks down the future of SEO in an AI-dominated world—covering Google’s AI overview, zero-click searches, and how brand visibility is being redefined. You'll learn what’s working in 2025, how to adapt your content strategy, and the key metrics top marketers are using to stay ahead.


Today we discussed:


[00:00] Opening

[00:09] Introducing Prasanna Dhungel

[00:53] How to Prepare for Changes in Search?

[05:06] Is Intent Driven Content the Way Forward?

[07:16] What Metrics Should We Be Tracking?

[10:39] Best Practices to Show Up in AIO

[16:20] Measuring ROI Without Attribution


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Check out Prasanna Dhungel's Website: https://growbydata.com/

Connect with Prasanna Dhungel on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/prasanna-dhungel/


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With experience marketing over 1,000 books, Alex Strathdee (CEO of Shelf Life and author of Before the Bestseller), shares why most authors fail to sell books and what to do instead. From free reader seeding to building an author email list and launching with a strategy, he breaks down how to turn your book into a true business asset. If you’re an entrepreneur or author looking to drive serious book sales without wasting time or money, this episode is a must-listen.


Today we discussed:


[00:00] Opening

[00:09] Introduction to Alex Strathdee

[01:03] Do Publishers Promote Books?

[02:45] Mistakes in Book Marketing

[06:54] How is AI Affecting Book Marketing?

[08:30] What is the Goal of your Book?

[09:39] Seeding Readers with no Audience

[13:34] Team and Tools to Help You with Your Book

[16:03] Positioning Yourself to get Lucky


More About Alex Strathdee:


Check out Alex Strathdee's Website: https://www.getshelflife.com

Connect with Alex Strathdee on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/alexander-strathdee/


Read Before The Bestseller: Your Proven Path to Book Sales Without Wasting Time & Money: https://amzn.to/4iXgUen


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Carlos Gil, global marketing leader, bestselling author of The End of Marketing, and Brand Evangelist at GetResponse, shares bold, future-focused insights on why traditional marketing is fading and how humanizing your brand is the key to standing out in the AI era. We dive into the evolving role of AI in marketing, the power of employee advocacy, and why building authentic brand relationships will define the next generation of marketing success.


Today we discussed:


[00:00] Opening

[00:09] Introducing Carlos Gil

[02:23] Brands Need to Humanize

[07:46] AI and the Need for Human Relationships

[12:25] Communicating the Human Element of Your Brand

[15:49] Omni-channel Marketing


More About Carlos Gil:


Check out Carlos Gil on https://www.linkedin.com/in/carlosgilonline/

Read The End of Marketing: Humanizing Your Brand in the Age of Social Media by Carlos Gil: https://amzn.to/4bHn9Rh


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I chat with Len Silverman—seasoned entrepreneur, longtime Learning Center owner, and author of Mesh: Aligning Your Personal Brand with Gen Z. With over 30 years of business experience and a front-row seat to Gen Z's development, Len offers expert insights into how businesses can attract, engage, and retain Gen Z employees. We explore what makes this generation tick, why traditional hiring practices fall short, and how aligning your company culture with Gen Z values can be a game-changer. If you're struggling to connect with the next generation of workers—or customers—this episode delivers the mindset and tools to bridge the gap.


Today we discussed:


[00:00] Opening

[00:09] Introduction to Len Silverman

[00:53] What is the Personal Brand of Gen Z

[02:56] Common Stereotypes of Genz

[04:16] The Old Ways Aren't Going to Work

[06:39] The Employee Journey

[08:35] Importance of Cultural Consistency

[10:39] Changing Mindsets

[12:44] Gen Z Customers

[14:19] Common Mistakes Trying to Align with Gen Z

[17:11] Turning Gen Z into A Players


More About Len Silverman:


Check out Len Silverman's Website: https://uptoelevenmarketing.com

Connect with Len Silverman on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/up-to-eleven-len/


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I chat with Keith Lauver—serial entrepreneur, product launch veteran, and founder of Atomic Elevator, the company behind the high-definition marketing platform Ella. With over $34 million raised for product launches and clients like Trader Joe’s and Whole Foods, Keith brings deep expertise in strategic marketing and AI tools for entrepreneurs. We dive into how AI is transforming small business marketing—not by replacing people, but by freeing them to focus on what they do best. If you're curious about practical AI, marketing automation, and how to rethink your business structure for the future, this episode is packed with insights you won’t want to miss.


Today we discussed:


[00:00] Opening

[00:09] Introducing Keith Lauver

[01:52] Understanding the Practical Uses of AI

[04:17] What are AI Agents?

[07:45] How Does AI Affect Organizational Structure

[11:46] AI Doesn't Change Human Value

[16:22] Personalized Marketing

[17:37] Ella AI

[21:22] Privacy Concerns with AI


More About Keith Lauver:


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Connect with Keith Lauver's on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/keithdlauver/


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Struggling to navigate uncertainty in your business? In this episode of the Duct Tape Marketing Podcast, I sit down with Bill Canady, seasoned business leader and author of From Panic to Profit. With over 30 years of experience driving business growth and optimizing operations, Bill shares how the 80/20 rule can help you focus on what truly drives profitability and efficiency. We discuss strategies for scaling smart, maximizing profits, and leading with confidence.


Today we discussed:


[00:00] Opening

[00:09] Introducing Bill Canady

[01:01] What is Panic Mode for a Business?

[03:54] The Stockdale Paradox

[06:22] The 80/20 Principle

[10:59] Small Customers that Need Much Attention

[12:58] Earning the Right to Grow

[15:11] Where to Start When Fixing Panic Mode

[16:44] How Will AI Affect Business?


More About Bill Canady:


Check out Bill Canady's Website: https://billcanady.com


Connect with Bill Canady on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/bill-canady/


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Struggling to outrank big competitors in Google search? In this episode of the Duct Tape Marketing Podcast, I chat with Sam Dunning, founder of Breaking B2B and expert in SEO for revenue—not vanity metrics. Sam reveals how businesses can escape the traffic trap, leverage long-tail SEO, and optimize for Google rankings that actually drive leads and sales. If you want to boost organic traffic, adapt to AI-driven search changes, and build a smarter SEO strategy, this episode is packed with actionable insights!


Today we discussed:


  • [00:00] Opening
  • [00:09] Introducing Sam Dunning
  • [00:31] Approach to SEO Strategy
  • [03:42] SEO Isn't for Every Business
  • [06:21] SEO is a Long-term Game
  • [08:53] Your Marketing Niche
  • [13:00] Google Search vs AI Search
  • [15:24] SEO and Local Search
  • [18:46] Where to Start with SEO


More About Sam Dunning:


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Connect with Sam Dunning's on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/samdunning/


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Want to know what it really takes to build a successful business? In this episode of the Duct Tape Marketing Podcast, I sit down with Lori Rosenkopf, Vice Dean of Entrepreneurship at the Wharton School and author of Unstoppable Entrepreneurs: 7 Paths for Unleashing Successful Startups and Creating Value Through Innovation. Lori shares insights on the seven different paths to startup success, from bootstrapping and business pivots to disruptive innovation and venture capital. Whether you're a small business owner, startup founder, or entrepreneur looking for growth strategies, this conversation will help you navigate challenges, leverage your strengths, and find your own unique path to success.


Today we discussed:


[00:00] Opening

[00:09] Introducing Lori Rosenkopf

[00:53] Telling Real Entrepreneur Stories

[03:59] The Six R's

[06:33] The Realities of Disrupting the Market

[07:37] Bootstrapping

[09:58] Technology Commercializers

[11:17] Accidental Entrepreneur

[15:20] Defining Innovation


More About Lori Rosenkopf:


Check out Lori Rosenkopf's Website: https://executiveeducation.wharton.upenn.edu/faculty/lori-rosenkopf/

Connect with Lori Rosenkopf on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lori-rosenkopf-5453a3b6/

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Want to know where SEO is headed in 2025? In this episode of the Duct Tape Marketing Podcast, I sit down with Bruce Clay, the "Father of SEO" and founder of BruceClay.com. With nearly three decades in search engine optimization, Bruce shares expert insights on how Google ranking, AI-generated content, and SEO strategy are evolving. Learn why quality content, usability, and brand mentions matter more than ever—and what businesses must do to stay ahead in an AI-driven search landscape.


Today we discussed:


[00:00] Opening

[00:09] Introducing Bruce Clay

[00:53] SEO in 1996

[04:47] The Growing Importance of SEO

[11:19] How to Create Quality Content for SEO

[14:50] Is Zero-Click the End of SEO?

[18:59] Guest Podcasting Can Help SEO


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Agency growth consultant, author, and podcast host Max Traylor discusses how marketing agencies can dramatically increase profitability by focusing on existing client relationships rather than constantly chasing new business. Max shared strategies for improving client retention through smarter pricing models and positioning your agency as a true marketing leader for clients. This insightful discussion offers practical guidance for agency owners looking to future-proof their business model and significantly boost their bottom line without the endless hustle for new clients.


Today we discussed:

  • [00:00] Opening
  • [00:09] Introducing Max Traylor
  • [01:29] Are Agencies in Trouble?
  • [04:25] Leadership is Missing
  • [07:00] Growing Revenue with Current Clients
  • [11:46] Are Retainers the Right Way To Go?
  • [15:36] Productizing Your Services
  • [18:01] Advice on Starting a Consulting Service Today


More About Max Traylor:

  • Check out Max Traylor's Website: https://Maxtraylor.com
  • Connect with Max Traylor on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/maxtraylor/
  • Read Agency Survival Guide by Max Traylor: https://amzn.to/3XkfRNn


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Reddit's EVP of Business Marketing and Growth, Jim Squires, discusses strategies for small businesses and agencies to harness the platform's powerful community-driven marketing potential. Speaking on the intersection of targeted advertising and organic engagement, he reveals how brands can authentically connect with niche audiences on Reddit's unique platform. From smart ad campaigns to interest-based targeting, this insider perspective offers marketers a game-changing approach to social media marketing that goes beyond traditional promotional tactics.

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Today we discussed:

  • [00:00] Opening
  • [00:09] Introducing Jim Squires
  • [00:56] How Does Reddit Differ From Other Platforms?
  • [04:20] Impact of Search on Reddit
  • [05:54] Best Practices for Businesses on Reddit
  • [08:17] How Does Advertising Fit in on Reddit
  • [10:52] Getting Organic Reach on Reddit
  • [13:05] Small Business Mistakes on Reddit
  • [15:47] How to Measure Success on Reddit
  • [18:34] Meeting People Where They Are


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Traditional sales tactics not helping your business grow? On this episode of the Duct Tape Marketing Podcast, I chat with Chuck Blakeman, a seasoned entrepreneur who's built 13 businesses across 10 industries and authored bestselling books. Chuck explains why focusing on relationships rather than aggressive selling can actually boost your revenue. He shares practical ways to leverage your network, build genuine trust, and create a business that naturally attracts referrals. Tune in for valuable insights on smarter, more sustainable growth strategies!


Today we discussed:

  • [00:00] Opening
  • [00:09] Introducing Chuck Blakeman
  • [02:27] What Does Sell Less, Earn More Mean?
  • [03:35] Why Do Business Owners Hate Selling?
  • [06:40] Serve. Don't Sell.
  • [013:54] Staying Recent and Frequent
  • [15:21] The Four Quadrants of Relationship Marketing
  • [17:21] Getting Started in Relationship Marketing
  • [18:54] Relationship Marketing on Modern Platforms


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Is Google stealing your traffic? In this episode of the Duct Tape Marketing Podcast, I sit down with Rand Fishkin, co-founder and CEO of SparkToro and one of the most influential voices in SEO and digital marketing. We dive into the rise of the zero-click internet—where 60% of Google searches end without a click—and what this means for your SEO strategy, content marketing, and online visibility. Rand shares expert insights on how businesses can adapt, build influence beyond Google, and thrive in a world where search engines and social platforms are keeping users on their sites. Don’t miss this deep dive into the future of search engine optimization and marketing strategy!

Today we discussed:

  • [00:09] Introducing Rand Fishkin
  • [01:07] What is Zero Click?
  • [02:11] How Has Zero Click Impacted Search
  • [06:33] How Should SEO Professionals Adapt?
  • [08:34] How Do Content-Reliant Businesses Survive?
  • [14:30] Is Google Dead?
  • [16:50] Making the Best of Attribution


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As a small business owner, you're constantly wearing different hats, from CEO to salesperson to project manager – but what's the secret to juggling it all without burning out? In this insightful episode, John explores the seven critical roles every entrepreneur needs to master, offering actionable advice for delegating, automating, and optimizing your business operations. His practical strategies will help marketing consultants, agency owners, and small business leaders shift from being trapped in day-to-day tasks to focusing on meaningful growth, ultimately creating a business that serves you rather than consuming you.

Today we discussed:

  • [00:00] Opening
  • [00:26] Juggling Multiple Roles
  • [04:38] The CEO Role
  • [05:37] The Sales Person Role
  • [07:09] The Strategist Role
  • [08:46] The Project Manager Role
  • [09:49] The Marketing Role
  • [12:59] The Client Manager Role
  • [13:56] The 4-Prong Approach


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